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[rosalinecapulet]

 To expand on the thought from this post, I guess it could be argued that an alternative ship to Kylux could be Kylo/Phasma, especially since the part of the fandom that objects so strongly to Kylux on the grounds of "they're fascists!!1!" doesn't seem to take the same issue with Phasma (or Anakin, for that matter, but that's its own rant). BUT the thing is that Phasma has even less of an established dynamic with Kylo than Hux does (which is frankly impressive tbh)

The only other Kylo ship that I could maybe see myself getting into is Darkpilot, since Poe's sass is always an enjoyable ingredient to any ship. I'm also hesitantly curious about Reylo, but mostly just as a spite-ship in response to all the pushback.

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[foreverdawning]

I haven't seen any Kylo/Phasma shippers before. But I really don't think they've developed Kylo enough for me to consider shipping him with anyone (besides aesthetic reasons)

I wouldn't have hated Reylo if 1)he didn't torture her but also 2)from the beginning there was a lot of speculation that they were cousins so I think that's what put me off from them. Even if they're revealed to not be related in anyway there's still that general sibling feel to it.

Darkpilot would be a fun ship if they were able to explore their interactions a bit more.

[rosalinecapulet]

I've seen a few on ao3. Obviously not anywhere near as much as the others, but I'm not gonna hold that against anyone. And...yeah, that's fair. I feel like most of what I like about Kylo is built on my hc interpretations rather than what's actually been said/done with him.

Yeah, I mean I don't think I ever really thought Rey would end up being a Secret Skywalker (though I like the newer, less popular theory that her mom is Qi'ra, despite how Tired I am of the fandom trying to proclaim her the daughter of everyone with brown hair), but it's widely accepted enough that there's a weirdness to it. Then again most of my fascination with Reylo is in how it reminds me of the things I shipped in middle school when I was first getting into fandom (namely Joker/Rachel)

Darkpilot is mostly aesthetic reasons, but it's also for the same reason (outside of process of elimination) that I like Kylux: Poe isn't intimidated by Kylo and doesn't hesitate to let him know, which is always fun.

(Also sorry for the lateness, illness happened xD)

[foreverdawning]

Don’t worry about your “tardiness” the beauty of dreamwidth is being able to reply at your own pace

[fh14]

I wasn't sold on Reylo until after seeing TLJ, but I've been enjoying diving into meta from fans of the ship and how their relationship in canon is constructed. The Scavenger's Hoard podcast did an analysis through the lens of classic literature like Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre a few weeks ago that was really interesting (x).

I'm a big multi-shipper so I really like examining characters through different kids of pairings and dynamics. Kylo is a little harder to do this with as out of all the characters in the Sequel Trilogy he's the one whose been expanded upon the least in companion works like books and comics because his arc is so tied to the main storyline of the movies (Rey and Finn also have this problem but to a lesser degree.)

[mossy_bench]

My kingdom for more Kylo backstory. At least Rey and Finn have Before the Awakening? And I suppose we do have this:

[mossy_bench]

Darkpilot is interesting to explore, because Poe's family and the Skywalker/Organa family knew each other pre-TFA. So I've seen a lot of fic in which Kylo and Poe knew each other before Kylo turned to the Dark Side, and that adds a cool dimension to their relationship.

I admit I'm pretty fond of Finn/Kylo for the parallels and how they mirror each other and all that symbolic jazz. I know there are some great Tumblr posts that discuss their dynamic... now I'm tempted to dig them up.

I can't tell whether I genuinely ship Reylo or if it's just spite-shipping. I feel like I only like one specific interpretation of their relationship (the one where they're both disasters but Kylo is more of one). Otherwise my reaction ranges from 'meh' to 'NOO'.

I really think Kylux grew to prominence because 1) rival-shipping + slash are always popular, and 2) shipping in the Star Wars fandom is such a disaster that if you shipped Kylo with a 'good' character you got yelled it. So, like you said in your last post, kind of process of elimination.